Well I've only played one Forza, but you build up your own cars in it and customize them pretty much from the ground up. I like the damage effects in that game. I'm not saying GT5 is poor, I mean 8.5 is a solid score, just I'm sure a lot of people were expecting better? I don't personally think there is a such thing as a "Perfect" game. I mean every game I've ever played had flaws.